Global Flood…True Account or Myth?
Firstly is the global flood legends and myths that seem to have spread across the earth and into the minds hearts and memories through of almost every culture. Wikipedia have lists which only an extreme geek would want to go through, from North America, to China, from Italy to Russia, from India to the Philippines, from Ireland to Hawaii, from Inca to Africa. These myths can be really weird, but most still carry parts of the Genesis story. This one is from a native Canadian source.
Before the earth was new, the sun was all that existed in the great universe. The sun divided the earth into several parts separated by many great lakes. In each part he caused one man and one woman to be born. They bore children and lived for many years. Wickedness pervaded in this family, and slowly they killed one another. The sun wept and wept with grief. The tears became rain that fell from the skies until water covered the entire earth. The family had to set sail in bark canoes to save themselves from the flood. A violent wind overturned their boats. All perished in the sea, but the old man and the old woman, who were best of all people, and it was they who populated the earth.
Noah invited all animals to save themselves aboard his ark, but the mammoths thought there would not be much of a flood and that their legs were long enough to deal with it, so they stayed outside and became extinct. The other animals believed Noah and were saved.
Yes it’s as mad as the Mad Hatter, but you can hear echoes from the original. The Bible speaks of a global flood. Noah’s Ark eventually lands on a mountain. From there the re-population of the earth began. After a period the people gathered together at Babel, which was in sight of Mount Ararat where Noah’s Ark landed. The story associated with Noah would have been known to them all. Then they were scattered all over the earth. And what happens to a story when something like that happens? Over the generations it gets garbled into something close to a meaningless story: a myth. This in my view explains the stories quoted above. A true account reduced to near idiocy by constant retelling and the inevitable erosion of almost every fact. In the end the only account that makes sense and reads like a captains log from a voyage in modern times in the biblical account.
From Myths to Science.
Since the time of the geologist Charles Lyell (1797 –1875) evolutionary science has accepted a long age and non catastrophic view of Earth’s history. The idea of a global flood such as that described in the Book of Genesis has since that time been largely dismissed by science. Considered to be a catastrophe beyond the realm of reason and certainly not the way to explain the geology of the earth. However there are anomalies which are not easy to explain in terms of classic geology.
How about this: the proliferation of fossilised creatures of every type, including dinosaurs, sometimes in perfect condition at others found in mass graveyards. Deposited in sedimentary layers with their skeletons disarticulated and smashed into small bone fragments. The variety will stagger you, as will their close proximity to one another. Creatures buried together as if they belonged together, which they clearly do not: sharks, birds, camels, mastodons, tapirs, rhinos, horses and cats. Sherlock Holmes would not have struggled to explain such a mismatched meeting of creatures. He may even remark “that it is elementary my dear Watson. A gigantic flood would explain it all.”
A flood can be sediment loaded. These are called turbidity currents and they are known to create some of the greatest canyons on earth: both on land and underwater. The Channelled Scablands of Washington State and the Monterey submarine canyon. Turbidity currents can operate both underwater and across land. They often have a “snow-balling-effect” stirring up the ground over which they flow, in the process gathering even more sedimentary particles in their current. Their passage leaves the ground over which they flow scoured and eroded. An example of this are the Channelled Scablands formed when Glacial Lake Missoula emptied itself in a vast flood. This video gives an idea of the scale and an appreciation of what the sudden draining of a glacial lake can accomplish in a day or two.
As regards how the geology of the earth was formed and by what mechanism and over what period of time it took, needless to say the book of Genesis takes a very different view. It states that much of the earth as it appears today was caused by a global flood and eruptions from beneath the earth’s crust. Yes there is a fair amount of water deep beneath us. Gleeson, a hydrogeologist at the University of Victoria in Canada and his team report that there are 6 quintillion gallons of groundwater in the upper 1.2 miles of the Earth’s crust. If you could magically pump it all out of the ground and spread it across the continents, it would form a layer of water 600 feet high. So when it is written in Genesis that…. ‘In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, on the seventeenth day of the second month–on that day all the springs ( fountains) of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened.’ On that basis you can take it that a lot of water was involved.
This mega cataclysm took place over a single year. With it came the resulting climate change, ice age and later the thawing of the ice and the aftershocks. The secondary floods caused by the melting and release of huge glacial lakes. Like the one which flooded Washington State scouring out of the Channelled Scablands. But floods on such a scale were not welcomed by the establishment which ruled over unwanted explanations such as talk of floods. The geologist Harlen Bretz, ( 1882 – 1981 ) became a lone voice, a worrisome and tenacious critic of the ruling elites in the Geological Society of Washington. For decades he claimed that immense, cataclysmic floods had created unusual landscapes in America’s Pacific Northwest. These were dismissed by other geologists. They only accepted geology that involved slow, gradual changes. Bretz was worse than a critic, he was seen as a heretic. Now he is honoured as one of the greats by an establishment that once ridiculed his water borne theory. Nevertheless lessons learned are soon forgotten. Vast quantities of fast moving sediment laden waters forming canyons are still not popular. Submarine canyons are of course another matter, but those above sea level like the Grand Canyon are usually attributed to millions of years of slow erosion. But among other issues Bretz might well have wondered how huge displaced boulders like the one below was to be explained. They are called erratics and can be carried for hundreds of kilometers. This massive rock is one of a number of others deposited by cataclysmic flood water.
Here is another, it measures 18 m on its long axis and was transported from basalt outcrops 10 km away. A prominent scour hole extends downstream from the boulder. So it was either picked up or scoured out and carried by flood water until it was laid to rest. This is a map of the full extent of this monumental demonstration of the power of moving water. It would have occurred after the flood. After glacial lakes had formed and then melted, causing a colossal flood to scour the this land and no doubt many others across the globe.
Here is an informative video telling the story of how it happened. It involves a wall of water 800 feet high moving at speeds of maybe sixty miles an hour.
From First to Last
From little known ancient creatures buried in the earliest rock layers to modern animals like dogs, horses and sabre toothed tigers buried in the most recent rock layers.
We have been taught that the geologic column and the history of the earth is the product of hundreds of millions of years. The method being a long slow processes of deposition and erosion. The Tertiary layer at the top is separated from the trilobite in the Cambrian 425 million years. And yet to come is a story that bridges that gap in a way that makes the evolutionary myth hard to maintain.
I ask you to take note of these fossils and where they appear; especially the one at the bottom, the trilobite in the Cambrian layer. Why? because it has a major role to play in this argument against the accepted evolutionary explanations for the history of the earth.
Searching For The Silver Bullet
A long time ago while studying this subject I prayed to God asking if there was a way to shake the foundations of evolutionary theory and to totally destroy its credibility. To do that its foundations need to be falsified in such a way that it can never rise again. The foundation I have in mind is the story of the millions and billions of years that are so vital to evolutionary theory.
It is a prayer I believe God answered. And the following is what I discovered. This is not a rehashed creationist argument, it is entirely new as far as I am aware. And the information was supplied by evolutionists. None of this has appeared in the two or three huge creationist organisations: Answers in Genesis being the most famous. The reason for that is a story in itself. It disappeared within a few weeks of publication and was never mentioned again. So if it was not picked up immediately it would pass by unnoticed. From the evolutionary standpoint it seems to me that evidence which could prove evolutionary theory to be false was very professionally whitewashed.
Can evolutionary theory be falsified?
It is generally accepted that a scientific theory must be potentially falsifiable. If it were not capable of being proved wrong it would take on a pseudo religious aspect; because religions cannot be proved to be wrong, which is probably why they can endure through millennia however absurd they may appear to the modern world. Neo-
This example is used because there is no way according to the evolutionary mindset that a rabbit could ever be found in rock layers dated 400,000000 to 500,000000 years ago. The challenge attributed to Haldane’s and Dawkins is made because they know for a “fact” that a modern mammal could not possibly appear in the lowest rock layers of the geological column: the Pre-
Haldane was born into an era that expected very primitive fossils to be found in the pre-
Is it possible to reverse Haldane’s challenge and pull a rabbit out of a hat?
There is an example that might qualify: judge for yourself. This is story about something turning up in the most unexpected place; like finding Barrack and Michelle Obama waiting with a trolley-
Like many good stories this one begins quietly enough. The following accounts introduce the subject.
An ancient tar pit exposed when Venezuelan oil workers laid a pipeline has yielded a rich trove of fossils, including a type of sabre-
The fossils are 1.8 million years old and include skulls and jawbones of six scimitar-
Researchers led by Venezuelan palaeontologist Ascanio Rincon announced the discovery…..saying in addition to proving the cat once lived here, the find also should offer a rare window into the environment shortly after North and South America became connected following an age of separation.
“The deposit could be one of the most important in South America in the last 60 years,” Rincon told The Associated Press.
Other experts agree.
“The find is one of the most spectacular and scientifically interesting discoveries of the last decade,” said University of Kansas professor Larry D. Martin, an expert on sabre-
The state oil company set aside the site for research in 2006 and contacted Rincon at the Venezuelan Institute for Scientific Studies. After months of digging, he and his team found the prized fossils in April 2007.’
Fabiola Sanchez / The Associated Press / Aug 2008
These finds and the many others that have have followed are all attributed to the Pleistocene, a period that ushers geology and palaeontology into the modern era: from 2.6 million years up to the present.
There are a number of references to this Venezuelan fossil find on the Internet, mostly from a variety of periodicals and newspapers including the Daily Mail and Guardian. But National Geographic is probably the most significant and prestigious of these magazines and newspapers. They were happy enough to write about this discovery when everything seemed to be in good order. The first fossils catalogued were as stated, sabre-
To prove this we move on to very recent accounts from 2013.
The following quote is from the Latin Times. It appears in the blurred type under the image of what is without doubt a trilobite. It is this creature, one of the earliest ever to appear on the earth according to the evolutionary world view that throws a huge spanner in the story all evolutionists accept. Most primitive animals at the bottom of the geologic column, most sophisticated at the top. The question is simple what is the most primitive creature doing at the pinnacle?
The Latin times, an internet news source, features a headline beneath which is a large photo of one of the few creatures that could explain these dates. A deep sea creature that could never naturally be associated with sabre-
It explains the extraordinary dates given. An impossible span of dates: an embarrassment. The quote is:
‘Paleontologists in Venezuela have found some interesting fossils under the Venezuelan soil which includes finds like a giant armadillo that is the size of a Volkswagen, a crocodile larger than a bus and a sabre-
14 THOUSAND TO 370 MILLION YEARS IS SIMPLY IMPOSSIBLE!
Evolutionary theory cannot accommodate such a range of dates from a single deposit. Dates that pass over entire geological eras. Animals from the Devonian, dated at between 416-
A trilobite is one of few fossil finds that could explain these impossibly far flung dates. Nothing I have seen on the Internet has described the recent fossils finds in any detail. But one thing is sure; something very strange has turned up in this tar pit.
The only photo released to the media by paleontologist Ascanio Rincon that is characteristic of a fossil associated with dates like 370 million years looks exactly like a trilobite. These can range from anywhere between 542 million years and 250 million when they suddenly became extinct. All this of course presumes evolutionary dating methods are accurate.
Trilobites are icons of the Cambrian era: a rock strata which does take you right back at least 370 million years according to the long age evolutionary hypothesis.
There is another source that displays the Venezuelan tar pit fish / trilobite. It can be seen on this link: Daily Mail www.dailymail.co.uk/…/Armadillos-
To my knowledge there has never been any explanation for the 370 million year date. There appears to have been not only no explanation for the impossible gap between the two possible dates but no news of any kind since that date was announced. Why? A reason could be that since the reports from September 2013 all further information has been suppressed. This matter must be embarrassing to evolutionists and potentially threatening to the credibility of evolutionary theory. The question remains, was there a fossilised trilobite buried in this tar pit, and if there was does it prove that the Theory of Evolution actually is falsifiable?
The truth is nothing will do that; this theory is not scientifically falsifiable because no evidence however compelling will be permitted to bring it down. It is simply impervious to criticism. Any discovery however apparently dire will just be incorporated into the theory, maybe under another sub heading, but it will be included. Darwinism will only fall when the many good, decent, honest scientists, who I am convinced are in the majority, get sick and tired of upholding a version of events that becomes an embarrassment to them. Darwinism is a state sponsored myth, weak, false and vulnerable. But like many other philosophical and political ideas it will flourish until it runs out of credibility, its ruling elite falters and its enforcers lose faith.
Mount St Helen’s and Pyroclastic Turbidity Currents.
Examples of turbidity currents involving other fluid mediums besides liquid water include: avalanches (snow, rocks) and the pyroclastic flows, volcanic (as in Mount St Helen’s). Long timescales for canyon formation are reduced to near nothing at all when a turbidity current is involved. The picture below is of a canyon formed in a day.
The video below tells you about how this Little Grand Canyon formed.
A Tale of Two Canyons
Below is a map of the submarine canyon in Monterey Bay, California. It has steep canyon walls measuring a full 1 mile in height from bottom to top, which height/depth rivals the depth of the Grand Canyon itself. It is the largest such submarine canyon along the West coast of the North American continent, and was formed by the underwater erosion process known as turbidity current erosion. A massive current of rapidly moving sediment-laden water down a slope, in this case the continental shelf. Note that it has two almost identical cuts into the main canyon, one at Moss Landing the other south of the town of Monterey. This dual feature is replicated at the Grand Canyon.
Turbidity currents can also occur in other fluids besides water. Pyroclastic flow may be caused by a volcanic eruption. A pyroclastic flow (also known as a pyroclastic density current or a pyroclastic cloud) is a fast-moving current of hot gas and volcanic matter that moves away from a volcano at about 100 km/h (62 mph) on average, but is capable of reaching speeds up to 700 km/h (430 mph).
It looks like two very different kinds of turbidity currents may have much the same effect. They carve canyons very quickly. The Grand Canyon however is attributed to painfully slow erosion by the Colorado river. It is held as iconic, the ultimate demonstration of leisurely processes working over millions of years.
Monterey Canyon stands as an accepted example of water carving out features which closely resemble Grand Canyon. If it was caused by sediment carrying floodwaters at the speeds shown above then this canyon was carved super fast. A feature that intrigued me is that if you look at satellite photos of Grand Canyon, showing the original incision below Lake Powell you will see its appearance is remarkably similar to Monterey. The Grand Canyon is set within a similar encircling bay of higher hills. If a vast torrent of water caused one canyon, which it certainly did, then why not the other? Look at the two initial cuts into the Monterey Canyon. You will see the same characteristics in the Grand Canyon.
The beginnings of Grand Canyon are similar. Two sharp incisions in the rock before the canyon opens out. These were supposedly cut slowly over millions of years by the Colorado River.
Is this similarity significant? Could the same processes have carved both? If so it was floodwater entering the area of erosion from above. So we could add two others formed by the same processes. Which would mean all four canyons featured in this article: Monterey, Grand Canyon, Channelled Scablands and the Little Grand Canyon at Mount St Helens. Does size matter? Or is the size of the canyon only dependent on the amount and speed of the medium: whether that be water or lava flow.
Animals of enormous size killed and buried in a single very short moment of time.
From around 500 million years ago, so the story goes, huge numbers of animals died in a manner which involved being buried under large amounts of sediment. A process which must have flattened them in double quick time to ensure they became fossilised. Becoming a fossil is not easy to accomplish. If a corpse lays about on the surface for much time it will be torn apart by predators or rotted down by bacteria. If however you are lucky enough to be hit by a turbidity current and rapidly buried under a hundred feet of damp sediment, then your chances are much improved. Once it has hardened into rock then you are free to be yourself.
Here is an Ichthyosaur buried and fossilised while giving birth. These adults are big animals, the largest discovered is 85 ft. in length, the smallest around 7 ft
Creatures like this buried in the prime of their lives so fast gives rise to problems for the authorised story. Nevertheless slow and gradual processes over millions of years is the view taken by evolutionists. This of course rules out rapid depositions of rock layers laid down either in a single flood, or through a series of floods over relatively short periods of time. And yet there are anomalies, big ones.
Devon! Why Devon?
Because of the following: a list of creatures found disarticulated, smashed to pieces and laid to rest in various Devon cave systems known from the late 1980’s.
This list was put together by R.N. Worth in his writings titled The Transactions of the Plymouth Institution and Devon and Cornwall Natural History Society 1887 – 1888. It catalogues the burial in caves of all the following, from Cattedown, Stonehouse, Oreston, Yealhampton, Brixham and Kents Cavern.
The list from Devon’s caves referred to by R.N.Worth are as follows.
Fifteen humans both young and old / Elephant / Rhino / Hippo / Cave Lion / Cat / Brown Bear / Grizzly Bear / Cave Bear / Hyena / Lynx / Wolf / Fox / Dog /Weasel / Stoat / Polecat / Hedgehog / Shrew / Horse / Ass / Ox / Irish Elk / Reindeer / Red Deer / Hog / Sheep or Goat / Badger / Beaver / Hare / Rabbit / Seal / Mole / Bank Vole / Field Vole / Bats and Birds.
Nothing we know about natural events can really explain this, but a massive flood at least goes some way towards explaining the deaths and burials and broken bones of such numbers and varieties of creatures: big and small, domestic and wild, predators and prey, probably carried great distances before being dumped after a turbidity current began losing its momentum. Their bones are more likely to have been broken that way than by predators taking their kills into caves before being smashed to pieces themselves.
To those caves listed above could be added the Joint Mitnor Caves at Buckfasleigh discovered much more recently.
This is an elephants tooth from the Joint Mitnor Cave which Jennie and I saw a few years ago. Sadly this site was recently vandalised. This is just one of many limestone caves opening into the Higher Kiln Quarry. It is believed these formed a part of one larger cave before the quarry was dug. All these caves formed under the River Dart when it flowed at a higher level. However, about 100,000 years ago ( you and I may not accept that timeline ) the Dart had deepened its valley and the caves were dry. At the back of the Joint Mitnor cave a hole had opened to the land surface which acted as a pitfall, and many animals fell in. This falling in theory more or less by accident of the curiosity killed the cat type, involves large numbers of usually cautious animals of all sizes just losing their footing and falling in. There was no flood in this theory, just a stream of careless animals falling head over heals into a hole in the ground. Strange that no such events are recorded in modern times.
This Phenomena is Global
In Bakersfield California there is an area called the Sharktooth Bonebed. It has provided paleontologists with a rare assemblage of Middle Miocene marine vertebrate animal fossils. (the famous Miocene Calvert Formation of Maryland also produces many kinds of marine vertebrate remains). The impressive list of marine mammal specimens alone from the Temblor Formation includes 10 types of dolphins and dolphin-
The famed Sharktooth Hill Bone Bed in California produces teeth as big as a hand and weighing a pound, from giant prehistoric killers called megalodon.
Intermixed with copious bones from extinct seals, whales and fish, as well as turtle shells three times the size of today’s leatherbacks, all these relics seem to tell of a 15-million-year-old disaster. But scientists now suggest this vast graveyard might not have resulted from a sudden catastrophe. Instead, they suggest it formed slowly over a long span of time, potentially serving as a window into thousands of years of ancient history. That is typical, a huge flood answers all the questions raised but it is the elephant in the room that no-one who wants to keep their credibility , their funding and their job dare speak the word: flood.
The Sharktooth Hill Bone Bed is the richest and most extensive marine deposit of bones in the world, averaging roughly 200 bones per square yard. All in all, the bed is a six-to-20-inch-thick layer of fossil bones, 10 miles of it exposed, which covers nearly 50 square miles just outside and northeast of Bakersfield. In addition to the marine fauna, several skeletal elements from land mammals have also been taken from the fossil beds: the three-
Another mystery is that the Sharktooth Hill bone bed occurs in sediments that are mysteriously barren of any other kinds of organic remains. In an interval several hundred feet both above and below the bone-
Look at the range of creatures attributed to this bone bed.
Whales / Sharks / Seals / Walruses / the extinct hippos / Turtles / Marine Crocodiles / Deer like creatures / Tapirs / Weasel like creatures / Mammoth or elephant like creatures / Rhinos / Dog like carnivores, some as big as bears / extinct three toed horses / and finally birds!
There are twenty unspecified species of birds plus marine and land animals. Is it likely that any such mass assemblage of bones belonging to creatures as diverse as sharks, birds and rhinos, could reasonably be put together by anything other than some catastrophic event involving massive floods maybe caused by underground volcanism on an unprecedented scale? It is worth knowing that this area with its ludicrously narrow bed have buried within it, not just a few bones. The layers exposed at Sharktooth Hill (along the Kern River upstream of the town of Bakersfield) have yielded up not just thousands of specimens, but hundreds of thousands. In some places, a shovelful of dirt would hold hundreds of shark teeth.
In Death Valley there is a box canyon called the Barnyard. At this location they have found fossilised tracks of the following: The tracks range from about 1 to 15 inches in length and paleontologists have matched them to; you will hardly believe this: mastodons, one species of the ubiquitous tapir, species of birds, cats, camels and three species of horse. Such a catalogue of coincidences could be easily be called a catastrophe of monumental proportions.
If you take the Genesis flood then you will find by inference at least, tectonic movements, the break up of the sea floor, volcanic activity and huge amounts of water falling from above, arising from below added to that already in the seas and rivers. I leave it to your imagination to conjure up a picture of the resulting chaos throughout the process, from the initial shocks to the eventual aftershocks and climate change.
And the mystery goes even deeper, because very much the same grouping can be found buried together in Maryland to the West of the USA, and California in the East.
Geologists and paleontologists have uncovered many great mysteries and mismatches. In Maryland there are the Calvert Cliff fossils, in which are listed the following mammal remains: sharks, tapirs, turtles, whales, mastodons, rhinoceros, horses and dogs plus birds, like the booby, gannets and shearwater. Scientists say these collections of disarticulated bones are easy to explain, and they tell their story which is bizarre if you examine it carefully. It is possible to get many of this diverse group into the same location, but that is just the beginning of the problem. These creatures were broken into fragments and buried so deeply and suddenly that no later predators could get at them. If, as we are often told, the present really is the key to understanding the past then why do we not see anything like this amalgam of shattered fossils lying around today. The answer maybe that without a catastrophe of global proportions it cannot happen.
These deposits are global. The same is true of dinosaurs and mammals. Look at this image, dinosaur bone-beds finds are global as are those of other animals routinely found in bone-beds. I am afraid the different colours are not explained but the image gives a fair idea of the full range of these bone-beds and fossil graveyards. They are not rare they are everywhere.
Experiments in Stratification.
Modern geological explanations of the geology of the earth make little or no allowance for the effects of moving water such as that provided by something as terrifyingly overwhelming as mega turbidity currents collecting sediments and animal life and conveying them at speeds of up to sixty miles an hour on a trip of potentially hundreds if not thousands of miles across the globe. At the end of which mixed groups of smashed bones could be dumped in huge numbers and then buried under subsequent sedimentary layers. Below is a rather turgid, sometimes long-winded but very illuminating account of what moving water can accomplish. The conclusions should change your views on what can happen to sediment, and indeed anything carried in it, when transported in moving water. This is science you can watch, an experiment in a water flume performed by scientists at Colorado University. It could explain how the animals listed above at the start of the article could have found themselves sharing the same fate, buried together.
What are some of the other evidences?